Fr. Barron on Barack Obama’s “The Audacity of Hope”- http://www.wordonfire.org

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  1. Thank you. And I hope you are right that President Obama does on some level know abortion is wrong. If he does, then there is hope.

  2. Barack Obama’s words do NOT match his actions! and he has no respect for the Constitution. It is my opinion he studied it so as to know how to get around it. He HAS led us to chaos because of the ends justify the means. That is the mantra of the left which the Church has laid down with under the umbrella of ” social justice” which I hope and pray does not mean the same thing as the statist does. Charity/ help has to be from the heart not from the long arm of taxation or redistribution .
    I love love love how Fr Barron is SO ON POINT about moral clarity. Moral relativism is what the Pope warned us about a few years ago and it is glaring throughout society and the world. That the taking of a life whether by abortion or by civil uprisings that lead to death of neighbors by the hand of man… that either despots or nation of islam has stirred and provoked is all wrong.
    I was poised for Fr to sound like so much of the Catholic community in the US who have either knowlingly or not have supported what has morphed into a true socialist agenda that pushes out the faithful for the state. One needs to look no further than HHS and conscious clause.

  3. Well, it would be nice if Obama believes abortion is wrong however if as President he still refuses to acknowledge this and refuses to state that this ‘moral end’ should be addressed then his silence is doing more harm than good. Because he is now in a position to bring this to the forefront of a national debate.
    I don’t think he will do this as he views this as political suicide.
    So, while I hope he believes abortion is wrong … with no action … he does more harm than good.
    If he sees abortion as wrong but continues to do nothing then I see this as a prelude to a book post presidency wherein he explains how he was torn between doing something and not doing something which amounts to nothing more than him stroking his damaged interal moral code and looking for our understanding.
    It reminds me of the saying ‘stand for something or you will fall for anything’.
    I think he is in love with the idea of doing good but without leading others to that point that is a great failure to him and more importantly to the unborn.

  4. Modernism is the ability to juggle Relativisms, Subjectivisms, and Objective Truths without knowing or caring which is which. This spirit has infected the Church. We need our priests to return to the Oath, supported by a mandatory course in logic and argument.

    • Paul I agree with your comment. The worst danger we face now is that coming from within the Church its and especially from the ranks of priests, bishops and theologians who have been swallowed up by the spirit of modernism. Some of them just want cheap popularity.

  5. It seems to me that at a very fundamental level we all know that abortion is wrong. It goes against the innate natural law implanted in our hearts by God.

    However, what we do with that knowledge is the problem. Do we seek to uphold the natural law of God or do we, for whatever reason, make the choice to ignore it?

    Obama has chosen to ignore it. Let’s hope, with the help of our prayers and God’s grace, he will come to realize the evil of his actions and repent, seek the loving forgiveness of God and make reparation for what he has done.

  6. If abortion is morally wrong, why would the president not want his daughters “punished with a baby” but question the morality of abortion in his book. And why would the first lady ask a congregation to live their religion outside of their church but then his administration sues a Catholic, family-owned business that refuses to provide free birth control and sterilization? Why? Because he is pandering to get votes. He plays both sides. And, unfortunately, he does it well. If you are not for freedom of religion, you are not on my side. He can’t be on the fence with this issue. He can’t play both sides on this issue.

  7. You folks who have commented here before me are confusing religion and government regulation along with attempting to impose your religious beliefs on others. If the government allows abortions (making them legal) it does not impose on your beliefs or your religion. The President is not saying you have to have one. He (our government) by legalizing abortions is saying that if it is within your beliefs and moral convictions to have one then you may do so. If it is within your beliefs and moral conviction to not have one then then you have that option also.

    • Beliefs and moral convictions are an individual choice (the right to choose religion). Part of our freedoms are the right to choose. Yes, you will say that child has no choice. And you would be correct. Therefor, that child inside the mother may have changed it’s mind about being born and you by not allowing that mother the right to abortion have now taken that child’s right to choose the same way someone who might choose abortion has taken that child’s right away. What I am saying is if the parent chooses birth or if the parent chooses abortion the child has no say and both choices could go against what the spirit of child may have wanted or would have chosen. Oh, my apologies, if you are not concerned with any ones rights (child or parent) – excuse me. If you are only concerned with your and your religions beliefs of what you “think” God wants. I believe in my religion and I conduct my life accordingly. Part of my religious beliefs is not to judge others. I think that is in every ones bible and teachings – thou shalt not pass judgment. Part of not judging others is not judging their path in this lifetime and in order to not judge them or their path I cannot judge their choices. Blessings to you all. This is a hard subject and I believe that those who make the choice to abort struggle internally with that most difficult choice. Many may struggle with that choice before and after it is made. Just as many who choose to have and keep an unwanted child (because of their religious beliefs) struggle while the child suffers.

    • Rosemary, if I don’t believe in abortion, why would I pay for it? My government is imposing on my religious beliefs. Keep abortion legal for those who want it. Please do not make me pay for something I think is immoral.

  8. The issue is not whether abortion is wrong. I believe most Americans would agree that it is. The issue is about the rights of women and their freedom of choice. Didn’t God give us free will? He did. So why do men feel that they have the right to deny women free will?

  9. I agree with the basic premise that to take a human life is morally wrong. I agree that mentally, et alia. handicapped, pre-age of majority, pre-age of understanding, children, infants, newly born, about to be born, conceived, indeed, even about to be conceived if love between a man and a woman are — all are — in some sufficient sense, human but they — taken together — admit of degree. Limited free will is granted to humankind necessarily in God’s plan. We make mistakes because we do not have full knowledge; we learn from our mistatkes — or at least often learn from them. We sin. Sin admits of degree. In some situations — under all of the circumstance of a considered and well counseled decision process — an abortion is probably the better choice: better for the child, mother, father, family, society. It is still not morally “okay”, but it is a lesser evil to have so chosen. God will forgive. The mother, family, all concerned must forgive themselves and each other. Pray for betterment of the soul who was on its way toward incarnation. And, after grief, move along positively. I myself have experienced this process. I see no other good way. I believe religious freedom is under attack by this health care law, and all of the freedoms of the First Amendment (and the Seocnd Amendment, for that matter) are at risk of loss in this debate and at the hands of Mr. Obama. Nonetheless, in my small but thought out opinion, I am skeptical that the Church — who seeks balance in many parts of life’s moral debates — is correct to insist to the Nth degree that merely because its beginning premise is correct, that strict validity of logic must always conclude that abortion is in error, and thus a mortal sin. Fuzzy logic can be valid; indeed, the so-called ” “laws” or rules of thought” (namely, the law of excluded middle) are themselves subject to change.

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